Could we just assume that the reasons a person may have for attending or
foregoing college can be varied and legitimate? There are reasons for both
decisions and I'm sure they are valid for each individual. Unless there is
some research that indicates that "many students drop out of college because
they think they know it all or they are smarter then the professors" I'd
really rather we didn't go there.
_____
From: webanalytics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:webanalytics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rohde, Michael
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:27 PM
To: webanalytics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [webanalytics] Re: If you started from scratch, how would you
go about finding a job in w. analyt.?
Another aspect to earning a four-year degree is showing an employer that
you have commitment to a project. If you dropped out of college, how
does the employer know you won't drop out of the job? Another point,
many students drop out of college because they think they know-it-all or
they are smarter than the professors. What employer wants to hire
someone with a know-it-all ego?
Graduating shows commitment and the ability to work well with others:
two key elements for employment. You will improve your skills through
OJT.
-M. Rohde
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On Behalf Of nevertrustab
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:22 AM
To: webanalytics@ <mailto:webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: [webanalytics] Re: If you started from scratch, how would you
go about finding a job in w. analyt.?
Hi,
thanks for your help first of all!
I've already gotten to know somebody here in my city who's an online
marketing consultant..hopefully that'll prove helpful.
I guess Ill just go back to college and start a business degree
again..unfortunately employers place way too much weight on paper
qualifications here (even more than in the US, if what I heard from
various sources is correct...).
I know we're not living in a perfect world, but I still think it's a
bit strange when I think about it:
Technically one should go to college to get a good education and
learn a valuable skill..and that should be the reason why it should
be easier for a college graduate to get a job..the valuable
skill/education they acquired/received. But in the real world, it's
more like you go to college and don't really learn that much (at
least in a business degree in Germany), but what gets you a job is
the fact, that you have a "degree", though nobody will really expect
you to have acquired an actual useful skill once you're starting on
the job fresh out of college.
I'm really sort of wondering, why employers place so much importance
on that. After all they should be out for a high ROI and don't
really owe anything to the education system.
But anyways, I'll definitely keep learning about marketing/online
marketing(SEO, SEM) and statistics.
In case I have any further questions, I'll be sure to contact you ;)
thanks Anil!
--- In webanalytics@ <mailto:webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
<mailto:webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com> , "Anil Batra (ZAAZ)"
<batraonline@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I hired a person who does not have a college degree and he turned
out to
> be an excellent web analyst. I also have a friend who did not
finish college
> but is in an excellent position (Web Analytics) at a fortune 5
company,
> though he wishes he had finished college. I would suggest you to
get some
> practical experience. You might be able to get some short term
paying gig by
> advertising on this forum, If you can't get a paying gig then do
some free
> work and build up your portfolio. Have you played with Google
Analytics?
> I would also encourage you to get education in marketing or stats
since that
> interests you and both are very applicable to web analytics.
>
> I would be more than happy to help you if you need more
information or any
> further guidance.
>
> Anil
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/20/07, nevertrustab <patriccc@...> wrote:
> >
> > If you started from scratch - graduated from high
school+dropped out
> > of college, because you didnt enjoy your major (to say the
least) -
> > without any paper qualification, how would you get started in web
> > analytics?
> >
> > I'm wondering this, because that's exactly the case for me. I
decided
> > to drop out of college 8 1/2 months ago. At the time, I didn't
even
> > know what a "tag" was, let alone that "html" was not
complicated, but
> > easy :-).
> >
> > I've been spending most of my time during the last 8 1/2 months
(70
> > hours/week during the first 4 months and 50 hours/week during
the last
> > 4 1/2 months) learning about SEO and internet marketing (while
already
> > knowing a bit about statistical analysis as it was my favorite
subject
> > in college).
> >
> > I would also like to stress, that I dont think my intelligence or
> > passion have much to do with my dropping out of college. For
example,
> > I have never been to an English-speaking country in my whole
life, but
> > have taught myself to speak English as fluently as German. In
> > elementary I programmed small PC games, that many adults were
> > surprised at (including a friend's Dad who works in IT
security)..and
> > I think "analytical thinking" is probably what Im best at.
> >
> > Dont get me wrong plz, there are also things that I think Im bad
at
> > and Im just saying this, because I know many people are a bit
biased
> > when they hear you're a college drop-out;(.
> >
> > So...now I'm wondering: I want to work in online marketing or as
a web
> > analyst later in life. Now I'm contemplating to go back to
college to
> > get a "4 year degree". The only problem with that is, that I'm
not
> > aware of any college degree, that would help me with trying to
become
> > a web analyst or an online marketer...other than as a paper
> > qualification, of course.
> >
> > So now, Im wondering..should I go back to college? Or should I
not go
> > back to college?
> >
> > If I do go back, what should I major in?
> >
> > I also read about this web analytics online course on Anil
Batra's
> > blog, but I'm wondering if that would be able to substitute
a "paper
> > qualification", a "4 year degree". Unfortunately, I doubt it a
bit...;(
> >
> > So my question is: If you had to start from scratch and all you
had
> > was a high school education, how would you go about getting a
job in
> > web analytics?
> >
> > thx!
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Anil Batra
> http://webanalysis. <http://webanalysis.blogspot.com> blogspot.com
<http://webanalysis. <http://webanalysis.blogspot.com> blogspot.com>
> Web Analytics, Behavioral Targeting and Online Advertising Blog
>
>
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